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Malebait: Do men have a wall?

  • Posted on May 10, 2010 at 9:15 am

Though the cougar trend is something that I personally find disgusting, I don’t have any problem at all with appropriate age gap relationships.  It’s not a good idea for a woman over 30 to put herself in the “ugly girl” class for free use by guys in their late teens and twenties.  It is taking a step down for the sake of mediocre to bad sex with someone who doesn’t appreciate or care about you.  Worse, in the age of entitlement, many of the young men who “resort” to shagging older women, view themselves as failures since they aren’t able to keep a steady stream of interested, hot, young women like the television and porn tells them they should.  So they project their self loathing onto the women they shag, and hurt them.

I do realize though, that in some areas and situations, options may be limited.  Sometimes it’s not even about options, but two people just happen to get along in a way that overrides social considerations.  I’m cool with that.  I just realize that it is very rare.  In my observation though, it’s becoming a bit less rare.

Since most of my friends and acquaintances are male, and a good proportion of them under 40, I watch their behavior to make sure the advice I give to others stays reality based.  My close friends are usually not very socially dependent, relative to most others, but my acquaintances run the range.  I have noticed that quite a few very beautiful, intelligent young men are not averse to actually dating, as opposed to merely shagging older women.

Their reasons vary, but mostly center around older women respecting and appreciating them more.  In watching how some of these relationships pan out over time though, I noticed something quite disturbing.  Perhaps because of some lingering delusion about women being more character oriented than men, especially in my generation, I expected that so long as the men in these relationships held up their end, the older women being supposedly even wiser, would be happy.  I was apparently wrong.

It seems that when the guys are between the ages of 26 and 30, their older women bail out.  In most cases, the relationships lasted for over a year, sometimes up to 5 years, but it made no difference.  They were replaced either by someone the age they used to be when their relationship started, or by someone older with more money.  It almost never happened, at least in the case of guys I spoke to or hear about, that the older guy was of comparable means to the younger one.

A couple of things could be going on here.  Perhaps as the relationship settles, the women turn out to be novelty addicts who dated younger men because it’s different and exciting, not because of the men themselves.  It could also be a kind of new love addiction where something new is always better than something old.  That is disturbing enough in itself because when you’re playing with love, you’re playing with lives.

The other possibility is what my legal husband likes to call “dick age”.  It’s a term that can be used to describe a guy’s apparent physical fitness or his sexual endurance.  Again, when a relationship settles, the sex might not be as frequent.  Also, when a man gets older as in not 19 years old anymore, he doesn’t want sex as frequently.

What seems to be happening is that once a guy’s novelty has worn off, and he’s not getting erections from breathing anymore, and no longer looks somewhat adolescent, he’s “aged out” of the female quasi-ephebophile market.

I think we have discovered the male wall: the age at which a guy is no longer considered worth shagging ffs (for shagging’s sake).

It’s a hard thing for me to wrap my head around, since my personal preference is for older men.  Specifically, I like an older guy with lots of sass, silver hair, and that special thickness a guy gets over 35.  I don’t personally get the attraction to frog-like youngsters but reality doesn’t dance around my genitals.

All who read this should know that what I’ve written here is based on my observations, and I could be misreading things, or have some kind of sample bias.  So feel free to comment with your own observations.  I’d especially like to hear from younger men who have dated older women…if you’ve noticed that at some point you’ve aged out, or that your prospects suddenly jumped in age from the 30′s to the 40′s when you no longer looked young.

How to Shut Down Whipper Snappers

  • Posted on October 2, 2009 at 5:20 am

One of the unfortunate consequences of the cougar trend is that now older women are treated like ugly girls.  Rather than being viewed as examples, elders, or even forbidden fruit or “rare burds” when we age well, guys in their 20′s now believe that most of us are desperate for their attention.

Aside of being inaccurate Hollywoodian hype, it leads to a delay in the transition during which we’re socially allowed to decisively reject them without being perceived as unduly bitchy.  We’re expected to be gentler with them than our mothers would have been with what they would perceive as perverts.  It’s now supposedly not deviant to “bang” older women for casual sex purposes, while hoping to someday catch the unicorn-I-mean 10 with a great personality.

Many of us have been there…over 35, and face to face with a 20-something kid with a boner in the grocery store, at a pub, or elsewhere minding our own business.  Then figuring out at some point during the conversation that we’re being flirted with, or worse, insulted because we’ve inadvertently said something that the guy received as some kind of sexual rejection.

A few of us even still get cat calls on the street, felt up “accidentally”, approached explicitly or experience other things that are supposed to stop happening when you’re showing clear signs of aging.  You might think the world has gone mad, and it has.  Now I’ll tell you how not to go mad along with it.

First off, you have to not believe the hype yourself.  Although there are some successful older woman/younger man age gap relationships, this is extremely exceptional.  It’s unusual for a guy to be legitimately interested in a long term relationship with a woman merely a year or two older than him.  More than 5 years older is very rare.  More than 10 years, and it’s bordering on mommy issues territory.  It’s so unusual that at least once you’re over 30, you should not be considering anyone younger than you at all, under normal circumstances.

If you encounter a guy who prefers older women, be as careful as you’d figure an overweight woman would need to be of guys who prefer fat women.  Liking a certain type of women for sex doesn’t mean the same thing as being able to love that type of woman.  Sometimes, just as with blonde bombshell types, that’s the kind of woman a guy likes to shag, but he’s probably not going to try to marry one.  So when a guy says he likes older women, the question should be what he likes them for.  Most of the time, it’s just going to be for sex, especially if his reasoning revolves around our being more “experienced”.

…which brings us to another good reason to avoid younger men.  Men don’t think of sexual “experience” as a good thing.  In Manian, “experienced” means what “slut” means in Womanian.  So when a guy says he likes you or older women in general for that, it means that you’re a more fun pump and dump candidate.

For this, as I’ve said in earlier posts, most guys who are into casual sex, prefer to use women they consider below their marriage standards.  They like girls they consider either ugly or used up, or otherwise defective, because then they don’t feel bad about treating them like dirt.  Of course, they’re not going to tell you this up front, but they will give many backhanded compliments that will give away their true intentions.

On the flipside, there are those who are not crazy, but understand the world has gone crazy around them, who do not like older women for anything…not sex, and not romance.  They feel pressure from other guys for not taking advantage of older women.  The small minority of skanky old hoes who enjoy the cougar trend make the rest of us look bad with their “pawing” younger men.  There is very little in this world that a man hates more than a woman he finds repulsive, trying to seduce him.

So the reasons for shutting down whipper snappers are not all negative.  Sometimes you need to inform the youngster that you are an older woman, not an ugly girl.  You should not be being viewed as either a sexual target or a sexual predator.  That’s just not how you roll.  Now, for the tips…

1. Dress your age in mixed age public settings.

Over 30, a woman is supposed to dress more modestly.  Some say, “If you got it, flaunt it!” but this should be reserved for 30+ clubs and social gatherings, and on your way to and from these events with your man.  No man under 30 should see so much as the apex of your cleavage or your knees.  Elbows should even be covered during daylight savings, if you can manage it.

In other words, if you’re trying to look attractive, dress to attract guys who are older than you, not guys who are younger than you.  The idea is to present an image that indicates that you are not available to younger men, and don’t even want them staring at your boobage.  This way, they have no visual excuse to class you as an old slut in their minds, even if you are to guys over 40.

2.  Assume authoritive body language around younger men.

Imagine you are an English nanny.  Stand that way, and use that kind of “safe distance” personal space protection around them.  Do not allow younger strangers to invade your personal space.  Accept politeness and chivalry, but no touching that is not assistive.

3.  When being friendly, speak to them as if they were your nephew.  When being unfriendly, scold them as if they were a bratty child.

This keeps the age lines clear.  You are not a kid like them.  You’re older, and nowhere in their sexual or romantic radar.  In the case of the exploitive younger man, this will annoy the crap out of them.  In the case of the sane younger man, this will comfort him more than you may know at the time.

4.  If by some miracle of cosmetics or glorious perversion, you end up dating a younger man who really likes you, do not “ask me how” around your friends.

You’re a rare exception.  Enjoy it, and don’t take it for granted…and please please don’t run around telling your similarly aged friends that they should try it.  You’re telling them basically to bank on exceptions, which is very unwise.  Treat your relationship like the anomaly that it is, and maybe get some support from other people in a similar situation.

Age gap relationships between older women and younger men come with problems that older men/younger women relationships don’t.  Your sex drive is going to lower long before his does.  Your looks are going to decline right along with your estrogen.  You will need to make decisions about your health that may affect your relationship.  If you make the wrong ones, he could be looking at having to care for a sick wife sooner than he would if you were around the same age.

Even if it lasts forever, there are things women are often prepared for since the 20′s that men don’t generally think about because they usually marry women younger than themselves.

Seriously, how many guys under 30 do you know could love a woman with no hair and one breast?

Whenever a younger guy flirts with you or tries to diss you like you’re an ugly girl, think about that.  He’s a silly, stupid little whipper snapper needing reminding that this is the planet earth, and that none of us is immortal.  So when looking at you, especially if you’re taking good care of yourself, he’s looking at survival success, not a pump and dump or someone to put down with his high school level foolishness.

Shut ‘em down.

Mother Lover

  • Posted on August 30, 2009 at 12:05 am

When I saw the original on SNL, I laughed my butt off. Seeing a couple of guys do a lip sync remake of it made me laugh even more, although it would have been nice to also have some older ladies playing the moms. Ah well. Enjoy!

Now, before anyone gets on my case about this, I don’t have a problem with appropriately waged age gap relationships. I just have issues with the “cougar” trend that leads older women to think it’s okay to lose your dignity, and younger men to think we’re all desperate or even sexually available to them. The exceptions don’t change the general rule, that age gap relationships are not something anyone who isn’t an extremely independent thinker should do. Quite simply, if you don’t have the gutts to go through with it, just don’t go there. Nobody is going to reward you socially for it, so you need to be butch enough to deal with that.

Too Old For the Club

  • Posted on August 27, 2009 at 11:33 pm